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So many times I’ve come to this blog in my learning journey. Now you ask me to be your teacher. Interesting reversal of roles.
Yes, Gardner. Perfect distinction between the Spanish words ‘saber’ and ‘conocer’ (just drop the extra ‘e’).
The expression ‘willed optimism’ lingers in my head. I do not know if that time of 2.0 ideas can persist or not. I feel our conversation today is part of that social web history. It might well be like a footnote, full of meaning and spontaneous details that can help us gain perspective to look at our current working context with more hope.
I posted this on YouTube:
4:12 Also his methodological intuitions and to be with the conspirators around this very notion in the first place.
8:53 Might be, but we lost most of his technological advances, plus, system theory remains theoretical, hence, all of our problems remain unsolved and only get worse by themselves.
9:08 System theory was not invented by Engelbart, it’s the practical application of it that makes his conceptual framework special. The theory, framework, concepts are still with us, we lost the application/implementation/practice of it.
10:24 There’s Michael Polanyi’s “Personal Knowledge”, at the very least, that’s 1958, and more of it from earlier times of course.
11:19 Sure, those are the tools I can actually use. I can’t use the abstract, intellectual understanding of what makes humans different from animals for any given task, it needs to be translated and applied to practice.
15:10 That’s probably true and very bad for Engelbart’s hope that we can improve exponentially.
27:41 I mean, what if you were tasked with solving complex, urgent problems back in the day or today, how would you go about it? 50 years later, what else could we imagine other than a system theory approach and building the tools to support it?
28:36 Of course not. Computer science is about algorithms and a theoretical category of problems, not about programming (the practice) or building tools or doing things with it, it’s the scientific analysis of the theory of programming, the theory of computers, etc.
39:00 But we could have arrived at the Enterprise by now. Your car is my buggy, I want my car now.
42:13 Bootstrapping has always been about procedures/practices as well, not to just go along with the tools, but tools and practices/methodology/paradigms supporting each other for synergy and (exponential) improvement.
42:33 That’s not what Guttenberg had in mind. Same with Engelbart, just in a different way. Also, books/literacy becoming available to more people than just the elite is a matter/question of efficiency.
I posted this comment on YouTube:
2:18 So either the numbers/IDs can’t change any more once they have been issued/assigned, or the text can’t change once it’s published/referenced, or have you guys done the technical work to resolve this issue?
18:09 Who cares about that? Knowledge workers probably do their work in solitude or groups, it’s far less about augmenting cat gifs.
18:33 Haven’t you heard about the movements for ethics, user rights and humanism in computing?